David
Scott from The Pearlfishers was interviewed by Giampaolo Giabini of Jam
Magazine in June, 2001.
What
have you done before "Across The Milky Way"?
I
actually recorded three albums before "Across The Milky Way".
The first record was called "Za Za's Garden" (1983) and I guess
you might not recognise the sound so much. It's a good record with some
great songs but it's what I would call a "stylistic blip", featuring
some instrumentation that I probably wouldn't use now. It was just what
I was doing at the time. There are pointers toward the sound I got right
on "The Strange Underworld Of The Tall Poppies" - songs like
"Bedroom On The Seine" with more of the string arrangements
that I really love. I felt that I wasn't reaching what I had in my heart
and so I took a long time out, writing songs and putting together a sound
that matched the feeling."Tall Poppies" is still very dear to
me because it was such a big leap forward. That album also marked the
start of my relationship with Marina Records. Norman Blake from Teenage
Fanclub and Duglas Stewart from BMX Bandits heard the record and suggested
I send it to Marina and that was it! We immediately hit it off - just
a real understanding of music across the North Sea. "Tall Poppies"
has a vey distinctive sound - very warm and dry (not much reverb or effects)
and the songs are very direct too. By the time I got to "The Young
Picnickers" I felt like I was really in my stride and that is the
record that brought the music to a wider audience, particularly in Japan
and America. "Young Picnickers" was very much written "like
a songwriter" - most of the tunes were completed in one sitting at
the piano although some of the songs ("Stella Painted Joy",
"We're Gonna Save The Summer") went through lots of changes
in the studio. I suppose the album is "Tall Poppies Mk2" - some
people prefer it, but I love 'em both!
In
which way does the new album differ from them?
One
major thing is that the two previous albums were more collaborative. My
great friend Brian McAlpine made fantastic contributions to those records
- as a musician, co-producer and sometimes helping out with the songs.
But this time around I guess he wanted to branch out a bit and do different
kinds of music so I had to fend for myself a bit. I bought a portastudio,
which used to be state of the art for home recording, just to go back
to the way I used to make demos and the results pretty much became "Across
The Milky Way". Lots of the songs were kind of improvised at home
and then refined later on which gives them a real freshness. I guess the
lyrics are more personal too - things like "When The Highway Ends"
and "I Was A Cowboy" are very inside. The new record is also
more experimental sonically. I suppose you can hear that anyway.
The
Byrds, The Beatles and The Beach Boys were always cited as your influences...
Who
with a brain wouldn't be influenced by great music? My music is influenced
by Brian Wilson. I've made no secret about that - I was one of the main
producers of "Caroline Now!" after all - but my records don't
sound anything like The Beach Boys. The harmonies are a totally different
style for a start (no one on the planet is in Brian's league even today
- don't forget that). It's just that as soon as you do more than three
part harmony and use the word "summer" in the lyric people say
"Beach Boys Lovin Spoonful Byrds etc". The most obvious influences
on my songs are Paul McCartney - I can't escape it - and other things
like The Monkees, Harpers Bizarre, The Association, etc. I also love things
like Moondog, Laura Nyro, Dylan, Bacharach and more recently things like
Stereolab, Eminem, the last Scritti Politti not to mention contemporaries
like Norman Blake, Bill Wells and Duglas Stewart. It's more about being
inspired to make music rather than being inspired to copy music.
How
important are these influences for your songs?
If
you're a lawyer or a doctor or a priest you can go to college and learn
how to do it. There isn't an effective alternative for songwriters except
learning by listening. The most profound lesson I ever got was by listening
to my Dad's copy of "Portrait In Music" - a great Bacharach
compilation of semi instrumental versions of his hits. All you have to
do is listen to the feeling which comes through the beautiful changes
and sounds. As far as Brian Wilson is concerned I'm as much influenced
by him personally as I am by his music. I think he's the bravest and most
committed artist of all time - his bravery has cost him a lot and we're
the beneficiaries.
Is
"Across The Milky Way" a retro or a "here and now"
album?
I
think good music is timeless - "modern" for modern's sake is
bullshit. I love it all if it's good. It would be silly for me to try
and go for what I imagine to be "here and now" because as soon
as you do it it's yesterday's sound anyway. That's not to say there's
no ambition in the records. I really want to touch people and be relevant,
whatever that is. I just think the most important thing is emotional truth.
I'm an artist - what I produce is what I produce and I sincerely hope
people find something in it that they can trust.
I
guess arrangements are very important to you...
I
really love to have good arrangements on the records but don't be fooled
into thinking that they are the only component. The main theme in my songs
is whatever is in my heart - usually optimism or hope and sometimes sadness.
The arrangement is used to heighten the feeling - sometimes to focus the
emotional thrust of the record. Most of the string arrangements provide
a counter melody or a hook ("Sweet William") and wind their
way around the melody or even the lyric but some of them are just kind
of "my chords" whether that's good or bad. String lines can
almost be an extra voice on the record too. Sometimes you can use bits
of arrangement as punctuation or humour, like the bass clarinet on "Paint
On A Smile" which is obviously meant to be funny and sweet. Of course,
every part of the record, from the drums up, are part of the arrangement.
Song comes first - arrangement and production ( which includes the way
the track is engineered ) are the things that help nail the feeling. I
do the parts by hand on manuscript with a pencil. It's good to hear them
in your head and then with the band. All the parts for the "Milky
Way" album were written on holiday at the swimming pool miles away
from a piano. It was good fun.
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